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- From: seebs@solutions.solon.com (Peter Seebach)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
- Subject: Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada
- Date: 21 Feb 1996 08:45:21 -0600
- Organization: Usenet Fact Police (Undercover)
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- In article <4g8ook$bce@mailhub.scitec.com.au>,
- Ramses Youhana <ramsesy@rd.scitec.com.au> wrote:
- >David Weller (dweller@dfw.net) wrote:
- >> Compared to C++? You are wrong. There are fewer features in C++, yet
- >> the (draft) reference manual is larger than Ada 95 (not that this is
- >> necessarily a good measure, but rather that a language that is less
- >> complex would hopefully require less "langauge" to specify it). My
- >> personal experience with Ada 95 and C++ indicates the exact opposite
- >> of your conclusion. I have a feeling you haven't used Ada 95 very
- >> much to make such claims.
-
- >Sorry. I had once heard that Ada was more complicated than C. However, as
- >many people have posted and told me otherwise, I take the comment back.
-
- Don't. It's entirely correct. Let's distinguish:
- 1. Ada is more complicated than C.
- 2. It is debatable wheter or not Ada is more complicated than C++.
-
- A concise reference for C, tolerably complete, could be done easily in 272
- pages, including copious examples, exercises, and a reasonably complete
- tutorial for the language. A standard, complete in every detail, would
- probably be about 220 pages, including the updates produced by the committe
- since then, and could probably be trimmed if they assumed the reader is
- familiar with programming languages and computers. :) Once again, including
- examples.
-
- These are not made up numbers; K&R, including all of the exercises and
- examples, is a mere 272 pages. It's very close to a suitable and complete
- reference. The version of the standard I have is 217 pages, and could
- probably be trimmed quite a bit without real loss.
-
- *C and C++ are different languages.*
-
- At this point, I do not know Ada and C++ well enough to judge which is more
- complex; they are both, however, orders of magnitude more complicated than
- plain old C.
-
- This is not necessarily a bad thing; what I write in is considerably more
- complex than pidgin English.
-
- -s
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